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The Owen Jones Podcast

Palestinian Christian Leader: "History Will Hold You Accountable" Over Gaza Genocide

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Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2024

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

It's a huge honour to speak to Reverend Munther Isaac, Senior Pastor at the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church of Bethlehem, who delivered a hugely powerful Christmas message about Israel's onslaught on Gaza. We speak about Western complicity - including those who remain silent - and the refusal to describe Israel's actions for what they are.

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0:00.0

Hello, thanks for joining us. I'm honored today to speak to the Reverend

0:06.1

Christmas Church of Bethlehem. Now he delivered an incredibly powerful

0:10.5

Christmas sermon in which he damned Western complicity in Israel's ongoing

0:15.0

mass slaughter in Gaza. Before we speak to him, let's hear an excerpt from that sermon.

0:19.8

If you are not appalled by what is happening in Gaza,

0:25.0

if you are not shaken to your core,

0:27.2

there is something wrong with your humanity.

0:31.5

And if we as Christians are not outraged by the genocide, by the weaponization of the Bible to justify it,

0:38.0

there is something wrong with our Christian witness and we are compromising the credibility of our gospel message.

0:48.0

If you fail to call this a genocide, it is on you.

0:52.0

It is a sin and a darkness you willingly on you

0:54.1

willingly embrace.

0:58.4

Some have not even called for a ceasefire.

0:58.2

Some have not even called for a ceasefire.

1:00.8

I'm talking about churches.

1:09.2

I feel sorry for you. We will be okay. Despite the immense blow we have endured, we the Palestinians will recover. We will rise. We will stand up again from

1:18.3

the midst of destruction as we have always done as Palestinians.

1:23.2

Although this is by far maybe the biggest blow we have received in a long time,

1:27.8

but we will be okay.

1:30.4

But for those who are complicit, I feel sorry for you.

1:34.0

Will you ever recover from this?

1:38.0

Your charity and your words of shock after the genocide won't make a difference.

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