Palestine Pt. 10: Healing from Zionism w/ Meital Yaniv

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🗓️ 18 June 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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"What Israel is doing right now has nothing to do with antisemitism. What Israel is doing right now is a genocide. What Israel has been doing for the past 75 years is apartheid, is occupation. There is no need for any one of us to serve in the IDF. The IDF should not exist. The state of Israel should not exist." These are the words of a former Israeli soldier turned anti-Zionist organizer: Meital Yaniv.

Meital describes themself as a “death laborer tending to a prayer for the liberation of the land of Palestine” and has recently written the book Bloodlines which traces their paternal lineage being survivors of the Holocaust and subsequently migrating to Palestine. From there, Meital traces their lineage through indoctrination into Zionism and as settler-colonists, and defenders of the so-called “state of Israel.” Meital then describes their refusal to serve in the IDF and their subsequent departure from Israel and development into a death doula for Zionism and Israel.

In this conversation with Meital, we hear about what it’s like to be raised “extremely Zionistic” and to serve in the IDF. We learn about the consequences of trauma that is passed down intergenerationally and what is necessary to truly heal individually and collectively. We explore how to talk to people who defend Zionism and the state of Israel and what the tradition of Judaism would say about Zionism and the genocide of the Palestinian people. And finally, Meital offers invitations for how we can all contribute to bringing the state of Israel to an end for the liberation of Palestine.

And finally, Meital offers invitations for how we can all contribute to bringing the state of Israel to compassionate just death for the liberation of Palestine.

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0:00.0	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, When I really understood that my liberation is actually interconnected
0:25.0	with Palestinian liberation and with black liberation and with indigenous
0:29.6	liberation and that all of that is actually interconnected and I show up for myself because when I free myself I free the land and I free the ancestors and it's like we're not just like singular beings moving through the planet. So from that place bringing the identity
0:45.7	and the state together to its death is an offering. We understand that we cannot continue
0:52.4	and by any means necessary it's like another way of saying never again
0:58.0	We have become the never again so how do we bring that cycle to its death?
1:02.8	You are listening to upstream.
1:04.8	Upstream.
1:07.8	A podcast of documentaries and conversations
1:10.6	that invites you to unlearn everything you thought you knew about economics.
1:15.0	I'm Robert Raymond.
1:16.0	And I'm Dela Duncan.
1:18.0	What Israel is doing right now has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. What Israel is doing right now is a genocide.
1:27.1	What Israel has been doing for the past 75 years is apartheid, is occupation.
1:34.2	There is no need for any one of us to serve in the IDF.
1:38.2	The IDF should not exist.
1:40.5	The state of Israel should not exist.
1:44.0	These are the words of a former Israeli soldier turned anti-Zionist organizer,
1:50.0	Meitall Yani.
1:52.0	Meitall describes themselves as a death laborer, tending to a prayer for the liberation of the land of Palestine,
1:59.0	and has recently written the book, Blood Lines, which traces their paternal lineage
2:03.6	being survivors of the Holocaust and subsequently migrating to Palestine. From
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