You feel this nervousness on the phone there?

Sir, I've been trying to make an urgent phone call up there.

I don't think it's something I want to do on an overseas phone.

You got to make some phone calls.

Hanging up the phone.

Prank call her, prank call her!

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Thank you, Ryan, Daniel from California.

I was just listening to the podcast,

and you were talking about the draft and how the Packers, they always go for

like the developmental guy and all that stuff.

I'll say it feels that way.

I guess, you know, I don't know.

Again, it's in some way everybody's a developmental guy, you know what I mean? I don't know. Again, it's in some way everybody's a developmental guy. You know what I mean?

I don't know. I'm not going to say it as like a definitive thing, but it certainly feels that way.

And I know there have been times where, you know, they'll draft a guy. And the hard part about it is it's hard to get into it because there's not a lot for me to sink my teeth into.

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