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The Owen Jones Podcast

P&O Exposes Neoliberal Dystopia

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

As P&O sack 800 staff - many by video message, others marched off ships like criminals - and reportedly replace them with Eastern European workers on £2.60 an hour, what does this say about Britain's woefully unjust economic model - and how do we fight back?


We are joined by Mick Lynch - general secretary of the Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT) union.


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0:00.0

Picture this, static cars, idling engines, angry horns, now picture you, zooming past

0:12.4

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0:30.1

Hello, hello, hello, welcome to the show with your watching live or listening on the podcast.

0:44.9

We've got a very, very important show today, which is a very damning inside into the realities

0:51.1

of modern Britain. The mass sackings of P&O workers is shocking, but in many ways not surprising.

0:59.2

Exposes higher, the terrible fire and that rehire, framework which exists in Britain,

1:06.5

the way that the law is systematically rigged against working people, the fact that a multi-nastro

1:11.8

completely behave like this. So you see this mass sackings of hundreds of people,

1:15.4

some by video link, there's various reports of, for example, people being told on video link,

1:21.5

handcuffs being used, people being forcibly taken off, marched off the ships, and reportedly,

1:31.0

Easter European labour being used with £2.60 an hour or even less. It's an absolute shocker,

1:39.4

and as I've said, it does reveal quite a lot about the state of modern Britain. Now let's just

1:44.5

go straight now to talk to Mick Lynch, who is the general secretary of the RMT, which is the

1:51.3

trade union, which represents these P&O workers. It's good to see you there. How are you doing?

1:56.1

All right, yeah, considering, it's been busy week. I can imagine, yeah, he just

2:00.3

talk us through what happened and how is it possible? Because a lot of people, maybe not

2:05.0

evenly, will just find this so astonishing that this is in any way legally possible. So just tell us

2:10.4

the basics. It's a bit complex. So if you have international voyages, so fairies to France,

2:17.3

Holland and the Republic of Ireland are governed by international law. So you can, if you choose,

2:22.4

as an employer, use overseas labour. So we've got a mixture, or there is a mixture of largely Russian

2:29.6

officers, Ukrainian ratings, Filipino ratings, Indonesian and Indian ratings. That's the crew

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