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My First Million

Oz Pearlman: How To "Read" Minds, Influence Anyone, and Never Fear Rejection

My First Million

Hubspot

Investing, Entrepreneurship, Business

4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Get our business idea database: https://clickhubspot.com/gdmr Episode 810: Sam Parr (  https://x.com/theSamParr ) sits down with Oz Pearlman to talk about how to read people and the pressure of performing in front of millions of people.  — Show Notes:  (0:00) Oz reads Sam’s mind (4:03) What is a mentalist (5:58) Wanting to be loved (7:30) Overcoming fear of rejection (13:22) Getting charged with a felony (20:46) Pressure of performance (26:39) Learning new tricks (34:34) Being a human lie detector (37:52) David Copperfield (43:02) 13 Steps of Mentalism (46:52) Performing for a room of powerful people — Links: • Read Your Mind - https://www.ozpearlman.com/book  — Check Out Sam's Stuff: • Hampton (joinhampton.com): My community for founders. Average member does $25m/year. Many of the guests are members. Get after it...apply: http://joinhampton.com/mfm — Check Out Shaan's Stuff: • Shaan's weekly email - https://www.shaanpuri.com  • Visit https://www.somewhere.com/mfm to hire worldwide talent like Shaan and get $500 off for being an MFM listener. Hire developers, assistants, marketing pros, sales teams and more for 80% less than US equivalents. • Mercury - Need a bank for your company? Go check out Mercury (mercury.com). Shaan uses it for all of his companies! Mercury is a financial technology company, not an FDIC-insured bank. Banking services provided by Choice Financial Group, Column, N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust, Members FDIC • I run all my newsletters on Beehiiv and you should too + we're giving away $10k to our favorite newsletter, check it out: beehiiv.com/mfm-challenge My First Million is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by HubSpot Media // Production by Arie Desormeaux // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano /

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0:00.0

How to convince people and how to win them over is the most important thing in life. How did you do that? There's skills that have nothing to do with my tricks that allow me to walk into a room, be remembered, engage with people, and create deeper bonds. Those three things are a cheat code in life. But I would say 90% of people don't have that. So how do you develop that? How do you explain what you do? Everyone knows it a magicianist. Think of this as a magician of the mind. There are no props. Rather than tell you here, pick a card, you put it back and I find it. So intimidated. You are a horrible hearing. Are there any cool crimes that you could commit? So if I was using this to steal your financial information and then use it to potentially

0:39.4

steal from you, could I do that?

0:41.1

Absolutely.

0:42.0

Could I absolutely?

0:43.3

Uh.

0:44.8

I feel like I can rule the world.

0:47.1

I know I could be what I want to.

0:50.0

I put my all in it like no days off on a road.

0:53.1

Watch.

0:53.5

Let's try something really fun. Time for money. This is the perfect example. Let's say, what is life about, right? Is it having more zeros in your bank account, my first million? I like the two commas, but where do you spend that money? How do you use it effectively? Here's what you do. You're having a birthday party. We're going to hypothetically play this out right now.

1:29.2

Milestone birthday. Sam, make this up right now. I like spontaneity. How many guests are in the room at your birthday party? Be very specific. How many guests do you see being there? Give me the number. Yeah, make it up right now. Small, 10. Oh, so it was 10 people. 10 people. And did everyone that you invited attend?

1:30.6

No.

1:31.2

Ooh, okay.

2:01.2

I'll ha. right now? Small, 10. Oh, so it was 10 people. 10 people. And did everyone that you invited attend? No. Oh, okay. Oh, oh, oh, oh. So you're in the room and now this is where I want to envision this. We're going to play this scenario because you've had birthday parties before and obviously you've seen you walk in the room, you're saying hi, it's 10 people and this is close your eyes your eyes. Is it a surprise, not a surprise? Is it? Yes. But, okay, so you've walked around the room, you've said hi to people, and open your eyes, and this is where I tell you, I say, one person you walk up to, they give you a big old hug, and it means a lot that you're here right now, and you look this person in the face, can you picture that person's face?

2:01.7

Yes. Could I have known that you were going to tell me there were 10 people at the birthday party? I don't know. But did I tell you to set this up? Is there any way I could have how many people you'd have at this party or who they would be? Of course not. How? Right? How? and then the person that would hug you, right?

2:17.6

How could we know this if they had a birthday party a mile soon? Would you attend their party? For a really big one. That's interesting how you thought for a really big one. I wonder if they lived far away. And in your mind, you were thinking, have I been to their party before? Watch this. Let's switch it. Somebody just came up. They hugged you at your birthday party. Could have been anyone. You looked them in the eye. You were thinking in your head, would I go to their birthday party? And I saw, I know you know this person's birthday. Instant that I could tell. I'm trying to react. January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December.

2:55.6

Close your eyes.

2:56.9

Okay, I'm going to just show the camera.

3:01.8

Open your eyes.

3:02.7

There is absolutely no way I can know who you would have thought of.

3:05.6

Are we in agreement?

3:06.8

Yeah.

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