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Gangland Wire

Owney Madden: From Harlem to Hot Springs

Gangland Wire

Gary Jenkins: Mafia Detective

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture, History

4.6 • 623 Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Gary Jenkins interviews Kansas City-based screenwriter and author John Sanders, who brings compelling insights into the life of Owney Madden—a notorious figure in organized crime. As a former Kansas City police detective, I’ve always been fascinated by mob history, and John’s unique perspective, intertwined with personal family stories, provides a captivating look into Madden's life. We trace Madden’s journey from his early days with the Gophers gang in New York City to his days as a respected citizen in Hot Springs, Arkansas. John shares gripping tales of Madden’s resilience, including surviving multiple gunshots, which underscore the brutal realities of the gangster lifestyle. Madden’s transformation from street thug to savvy businessman during Prohibition paints a picture of a man whose rise to power was fueled by sharp business instincts and connections with major players like Frank Costello. Our conversation explores Madden’s partnerships with colorful characters, including Big Frenchy DeMange, Lucky Luciano, and Meyer Lansky, as he navigated the cutthroat world of organized crime. From his ownership of the famed Cotton Club to his brewery, Madden's ventures reveal the strategic moves that solidified his influence in 1920s New York. We also discuss Madden’s eventual downfall and the power struggles that led to dramatic events, such as Mad Dog Coll's kidnapping of Big Frenchy. This episode ultimately sealed Coll’s fate. These stories shed light on the treacherous nature of mob alliances, where loyalty is fleeting and betrayals are often fatal. Finally, John delves into Madden’s later years in Hot Springs, where he became a respected figure in the community. His transition from notorious gangster to local businessman highlights redemption themes and human behavior's complexities. Alongside John’s family anecdotes, we discuss Hot Springs as a place of historical intrigue—a resort town with a darker past as a haven for mobsters. Tune in to this fascinating conversation on Owney Madden's life and legacy as we unravel the cultural and historical threads that make his story unforgettable. Subscribe to get new gangster stories every week. Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire Click here to "buy me a cup of coffee" To go to the store or make a donation or rent Ballot Theft: Burglary, Murder, Coverup, click here To rent Brothers against Brothers, the documentary, click here.  To rent Gangland Wire, the documentary, click here To buy my Kindle book, Leaving Vegas: The True Story of How FBI Wiretaps Ended Mob Domination of Las Vegas Casinos. To subscribe on iTunes click here. Please give me a review and help others find the podcast. Donate to the podcast. Click here! Transcript [0:00] Well, hey, welcome all you wiretappers out there. It's good to be back here [0:03] in the studio of Gangland Wire. You know, this is Gary Jenkins, your host and producer of Gangland Wire podcast. I am a former retired, not former, retired Kansas City police detective and sergeant. I was in the intelligence unit for 13 years, 14 maybe altogether. [0:21] And, you know, after I left, I got into making documentary films and i made three documentary films you can find on amazon just search for my name and mafia you'll find all kinds of stuff about me and what i've done so we won't belabor that but i let's get on to the show i have a man that i recently met a kansas city man is john sanders he's a kansas city based screenwriter and author welcome john thanks carrie i appreciate it all right well john got hold of me and he just wanted to meet and talk about the mob because he had this big interest in it so we met the coffee shop here close to me and had a had a nice long conversation and and he was telling me in particular he's been working on something about only madden and i hadn't done anything on only madden or if i did it was a long time ago and the early begin...

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0:00.0

Well, hey, welcome all you wiretappers out there. It's good to be back here in the studio of Gangland Wire.

0:05.2

You know, this is Gary Jenkins, your host and producer of Gangland Wire podcast. I was a former

0:12.7

retired, not former, retired Kansas City Police Detective and Sergeant. I was in the intelligence

0:18.4

unit for 13 years, 14 maybe all together. And,

0:22.5

you know, after I left, I got into making documentary films. And I made three documentary films

0:29.8

you can find on Amazon. Just search for my name and mafia. You'll find all kinds of stuff

0:35.9

about me and what I've done. So we won't belabor that,

0:39.2

but let's get on to the show. I have a man that I recently met, a Kansas City man, is John

0:45.0

Sanders. He's a Kansas-based screenwriter and Arthur. Welcome, John. Thanks, Gary. I appreciate it.

0:52.0

All right. Well, John got hold of me, and he just wanted to meet and talk about the mob because he had this big interest in it.

0:57.5

So we met the coffee shop here close to me and had a nice long conversation.

1:01.6

And he was telling me in particular, he's been working on something about Ony Madden.

1:05.9

And I hadn't done anything on Ony Madden.

1:08.1

If I did, it was a long time ago in the early beginnings of the

1:11.4

Irish mob in New York and I thought what an idea for a show so John graciously agreed to come on

1:16.7

the show and share his knowledge of the story of O'Ney Madden so John tell us a little bit about

1:24.8

yourself before we get started talking about ony okay well i was

1:30.1

the son of a guy who was born and raised in hot springs arkansas and anybody who knows

1:36.1

anything about only madden knows that he became the the main man in hot springs arkansas

1:41.7

and i was grown up with stories about how he would see O'Ne sitting in the front of the

1:48.0

Southern Club, where he would dispense wisdom and give out cash and help and take care of people.

1:56.1

He was a very generous guy all throughout and through most of his life.

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