Today, I am blessed to have here with me Owen Hemsath and Kali Moynihan. Owen was told that he had Stage 4 Terminal Cancer that was inoperable and should get his affairs in order. Since that diagnosis Owen has been on a journey to put his cancer in PERMANENT remission and has thus far shrunk his tumors by 30%! Learn more about Owen here: http://beatcancerwithme.com. Kali was also diagnosed with Stage 4 Terminal Cancer. Learn more about Kali by following her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/healwithcancer/. In this episode, Owen and Kali open up about their inspiring stories. They both speak about having large tumors removed from their chest and eventually being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. Later, they chat about what it’s like to follow conventional medicine vs. changing your lifestyle through fasting and keto. Tune in as they talk about the journey to metabolic flexibility, finding people who believe in your recovery, and the importance of strategy when it comes to remission. Free 7 Day Keto Challenge May 9th 2022. Register your free spot here: https://kka.mykajabi.com/keto-challenge Get Keto Flex on Audible for Free (New Customers Only): https://adbl.co/36d6A24 Get Keto Flex on Audible here for current customers: https://adbl.co/3699lBm / / E P I S O D E S P ON S O R S PureForm Omega Plant Based Oils (Best Alternative to Fish Oil): http://www.purelifescience.com Use ben4 for $4.00 off. Paleo Valley beef sticks, apple cider vinegar complex, organ meat complex & more. Use the coupon code KETOKAMP15 over at https://paleovalley.com/ to receive 15% off your entire order. Upgraded Formulas Hair Mineral Deficiency Analysis & Supplements: http://www.upgradedformulas.com Use KETOKAMP15 at checkout for 15% off your order. Text me the words "Podcast" +1 (786) 364-5002 to be added to my contacts list. [01:45] Kali Opens Up About Her Story and Finding Out About Stage 4 Cancer Owen and Kali have the same type of cancer, thymoma. Kali decided to do her own research, take control of her health, and be her advocate. Kali found out about her stage 4 cancer two months after having a baby. It all started during Covid; Kali had chest pain and difficulty breathing. After going to the emergency room, the doctors found a tumor the size of an orange. The tumor had ruptured, causing immense pain. Eventually, Kali had her diaphragm removed and replaced with mesh. Plus, the doctors stripped her pleural lining and took a little bit of her right lung. [14:30] Owen Speaks About His Story and Also Getting Diagnosed With Stage 4 Cancer Owen had a grapefruit-sized tumor in his chest. He had surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation. Later, Owen shrunk his tumor 30% by fasting and eating a plant-based keto diet. Through lifestyle changes, Owen was in a therapeutic process, changing his body’s chemistry to eat cancer while awake and thriving. Eventually, Owen was diagnosed with stage four cancer. The doctors told Owen that there was no hope; every single scan got worse. Owen was told he would only live two to five more years. Down the road, Owen read the book How To Starve Cancer; it changed his life. Get the book here: https://www.amazon.com/How-Starve-Cancer-Jane-McLelland/dp/0951951734/benazadi-20 [27:00] Surround Yourself With Survivors and People Who Believe In Your Recovery Is your goal to use the doctor’s medicine, or is your goal to overcome your disease? Owen’s doctors told them there was no chance. So, why would he do what the doctors told him to do? Instead, Owen wanted to follow people who believed he could overcome his diagnosis. Instead, you should find a community of survivors, not statistics from doctors. When you surround yourself with survivors, you will be in a healthier place. [28:15] Resources To Learn From On Your Journey To Recovery Owen and Kali learned a lot from Dr. Nasha. Check out her work here: https://www.drnasha.com Also, get the book The Metabolic Approach to Cancer: https://www.amazon.com/Metabolic-Approach-Cancer-Integrating-Bio-Individualized/dp/1603586865/benazadi-20 After surgery, Kali had high inflammation. Kali started following the keto diet and fasting; her inflammation went down tremendously. Owen recommends listening to Radical Remission: https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Remission-Surviving-Cancer-Against/dp/0062268740/benazadi-20 Something that Owen learned is that different cancers react to proteins differently. [36:15] Be Careful With CT Scans - They Will Increase Your Secondary Risks Getting two and a half CT scans per year dramatically increases your chance of secondary cancers. Owen brought this up to his doctor; she said he wouldn’t live that long anyway. When you test fasting and keto, you have to get a scan and see what it did; you have to be strategic. Remember, whenever you get a scan, you are increasing secondary risks. Owen says that you should get an MRI; that way, you don’t get any radiation. When you fast, you’ll be in deep autophagy. You have to know why you are doing these things. Owen recommends Rayus: https://rayusradiology.com. [43:00] The Journey To Metabolic Flexibility Will Be Challenging - Remember Your ‘Why’ Kali is metabolically flexible. Metabolic flexibility is complex, and it is not an easy path to navigate. Finding health is a journey that you have to change all the time. If you’re struggling to commit to keto, just remember how good you feel when you do it. Overall, your body can heal itself, and you can live a long and healthy life. AND MUCH MORE! Resources from this episode: Heal With Cancer: https://www.healwithcancer.com Beat Cancer With Me: https://shor.by/CfvH Follow Beat Cancer With Me Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/beatcancerwithme/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/owensjourneytoremission Twitter: https://twitter.com/owenvideo YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEgk0lDf8rD15YbK2TJ19Cw Follow Heal With Cancer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/healwithcancer/ How To Starve Cancer: https://www.amazon.com/How-Starve-Cancer-Jane-McLelland/dp/0951951734/benazadi-20 Dr. Nasha: https://www.drnasha.com The Metabolic Approach to Cancer: https://www.amazon.com/Metabolic-Approach-Cancer-Integrating-Bio-Individualized/dp/1603586865/benazadi-20 Radical Remission: https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Remission-Surviving-Cancer-Against/dp/0062268740/benazadi-20 Rayus: https://rayusradiology.com Join the Keto Kamp Academy: https://ketokampacademy.com/7-day-trial-a Watch Keto Kamp on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUh_MOM621MvpW_HLtfkLyQ Free 7 Day Keto Challenge May 9th 2022. 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