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🗓️ 20 May 2024
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4:08 How the Overton window is shifting after October 7 9:59 Israel’s 9/11, Israel’s overreaction, and liberal Zionism 15:22 The power of the Israel lobby
Discussed in Overtime:How “pro-Israel” actions may undermine Israel.“From the river to the sea…” and other controversies.US and Israeli media coverage of the Gaza war.Free speech warriors turn speech code enforcers.
Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Tamler Sommers (Very Bad Wizards, University of Houston, Why Honor Matters). Recorded May 14, 2024.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's non-zero podcast. |
0:28.4 | Welcome to another episode of Overton Windows, the podcast mini-series that examines the window of |
0:36.2 | quote-unquote reasonable discourse on a given topic. I'm Tamler |
0:40.4 | Summers here with the great Robert Wright. Bob, it's good to see you. It's been a while. |
0:45.4 | It's great to be with the great Tamler Summers. It has been a while. Too long. Too long. I think I've |
0:51.3 | had two dogs die since we last spoke and got a new dog. So my sympathies. We, we had one die not long before. I was died in June. I mean, we shouldn't get competitive about this, but when did your dogs die? Well, my dogs died in November and late November and mid January. Oh, you win by long time. |
1:11.2 | Both very old, one almost 13, one practically 15. |
1:16.1 | Like, very sad. |
1:17.1 | Just iconic dogs. |
1:18.4 | Just the stature of those dogs in our lives is. |
1:22.6 | I know the feeling. |
1:24.0 | We've got one left, and he's getting up there too. |
1:26.9 | But we got a new dog, |
1:27.8 | Trixie, a little puppy from the SBCA. She's awesome. Love her. Love her very much. But I keep |
1:33.4 | reminding her that she doesn't have the stature of our previous dogs. Give her time. Give her time. |
1:39.0 | I will. Yeah. So today's topic is actually a sequel to our first Overton Windows. And our topic then, the first topic we ever did was Israel, Palestine. The thing is, that was on July 18th of last year. So like 10 months ago, something like that. And things have obviously and quite tragically changed since then. |
2:04.1 | And it's fair to say that the Overton window on this issue has changed as well. And as you pointed |
2:09.7 | out off air, this is one of those rare moments, at least in my political awareness, where we're |
2:14.9 | seeing an Overton window getting shaped, kind of hammered, bludgeoned, |
2:19.8 | bribed, mobbed in real time. We're really seeing how much this Overton window idea can |
2:28.7 | actually have quite serious consequences for the people trying to express opinions. And it's pretty eye-opening. |
2:36.1 | So we have a lot to talk about today. But before we get into all of that, let's tell listeners |
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