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Robert Wright's Nonzero

GPT-4o, AI Companions, and the Metaverse (Robert Wright & Paul Bloom)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2024

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.nonzero.org

1:23 Bob’s sage status rises 4:18 GPT-4o: harbinger of the Metaverse? 13:53 Does sentience matter for AI companionship? 25:48 The promise and perils of social AI 33:46 How LLMs flip the script on computing 39:05 Heading to Overtime—and a special announcement!

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded May 20, 2024.

Overtime titles:

43:10 AI and porn (through an evo-psych lens) 55:08 Is sex passé? 1:03:21 Google’s new AI-boosted search; Bob’s and Paul’s SEO prowess 1:10:30 Are the OpenAI resignations really a bad sign for AI safety? 1:14:31 Bob and Paul compare their p(doom)s 1:26:34 Sci-fi TV to see (and skip)

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcasts.

0:27.6

Hi, Paul.

0:30.9

Hi, Bob.

0:31.9

How you doing?

0:32.2

You doing?

0:33.1

Oh, me too.

0:35.6

Bad beginning.

0:38.2

Yeah, but we don't do redos.

0:39.4

That's the spontaneity that people love.

0:41.6

It's like whatever happens, happens.

0:42.9

We're working without a net.

0:45.0

That much is obvious.

0:47.5

So what do you call this podcast that we're on?

0:51.8

Oh, it's funny.

0:52.3

You should ask, Paul.

0:53.3

It's a non-zero podcast, and as it

0:55.1

happens, I published a non-zero newsletter as well, and you publish a small potato's newsletter.

1:01.2

Small potatoes is still going strong. And you're famous psychologist and a writer and intellectual

1:07.0

and that's why I brought you here today,ul now listen i'm here i'm here every

1:13.0

second week you are you are it's like nothing special it's like clockwork it's getting to the

1:18.5

point where you need no introduction but i think you demanded one in your contract and i'll stick

1:23.1

with that now paul far be it for me to suggest that I am, your guiding light, the person you turn

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