Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series, Real Time with Bill Maugh.

All right, here we are on overtime with the CNN political commentator and founder of Dreamachine.org Van Jones

and the author and three-time Pulitzer Prize winning reporter for the New York Times, Tom Friedman.

Okay. Here are the questions from the people.

First one, Van, for you. Would you have agreed to debate Charlie Kirk?

I bet you I know the answer, and I bet you the answer is yes.

Because that's the kind of guy you are.

Yeah. Listen, Charlie Kirk and I were not friends, and we were in a big, big public fight the week that he died.

And it turned out that the day before he died, he sent me a personal message wanting me to come on his show.

And he said, let's be gentlemen.

He said, let's disagree agreeably.

Let's disagree agreeably. Let's disagree agreeably.

I'm going to carry those words with me

because he was a words not weapons guy.

I disagree with his words.

He's a words not weapons guy.

And we're getting away from that now.

And I was very frustrated people in my party

throwing rocks at the corpse before he could even be buried. Blood's still on the widow's shoes. And people want to post every dumb thing he ever said. He was a 31-year-old kid. Right. If you got me at 31 years old, I was on the left side of Pluto. There is no telling what you have had me saying. So let's give some grace and some space, even to our enemies.

What an episode.

Okay.

Speaking of Pluto, should the government be more transparent about the existence of UAPs?

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