Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series Real Time with Bill Maugh.

Okay, here we are on overtime.

Okay, John, the title of your book is The Big Lie, a line that Trump parroted and Republicans

have perpetuated.

How does our nation overcome this?

Is it even possible?

Well, certainly it is very much still with us.

The big lie didn't begin or end on January 6th.

Donald Trump planted the seeds years before he spent years hijacking the Republican Party,

the conservative media with lie after lie gave him to believe the big one.

The which is about his false claims election fraud, but we're still seeing it now.

We've seen states use it as a Republican state legislatures use it to restrict acts of

the bout and more than a dozen states.

We have seen candidates right now for the midterms, not just saying that they want to still

overturn the 2020 election nearly two years out, but won't commit to conceding if they

were to be defeated this fall.

It is a litus-ness test for the Republican Party, and we're also seeing the negative impact

in the polls more and more Democrats also feel they can't necessarily trust election

results.

It is going to be the defining one of the defining issues for our democracy.

These next Discycle through 2024 and beyond, being able to restore the American people's

faith in the government, they're not going to have the ability to vote, but their vote

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