Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series Real Time with Bill Maugh.

All right.

Joy, your new book is all about Trump's impact on America.

Do you think we'll be able to recover from his presidency?

Once he finally leaves office, I keep saying he never will.

Well, you know what? He keeps saying he never will.

Now he's doing it. You know, it's going to be very hard.

I interviewed a lot of people from all around the world who all said one thing.

America has said about itself since World War II.

We kind of suspected might be a bit bullshit.

Donald Trump has made us feel, yep, it was always bullshit.

We don't believe it anymore.

So getting the world to be, again, to believe that we are the good people,

the good people, the leader of the free world, the real democracy,

the multicultural democracy.

I think that went pretty far down after we had to, you know, I mean, look great.

Yeah, but he's created it.

And the other thing is it's like supply chains, right?

So Donald Trump does a tear of war.

People stop buying our soybeans.

Do you think because Kamala Harris is president suddenly there'll be like,

oh, we're going to buy your soybeans again.

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