Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late-night series Real Time with Bill Maugh.

Okay, we're back.

All right, Congressman, how do you propose to deal with the White House's refusal to let its

aides testify before Congress?

Oh, yeah, that's the latest instruction.

Well, we're going to have to force the issue, we're going to have to litigate it in court,

and we're going to have to look at other options as well.

That may mean devices we've used in the past where we cut off funding for certain offices

within certain agencies if they don't cooperate.

So we'll look at whatever tools that we have, because at the end of the day, if this president can succeed in stonewalling the Congress,

it means that our power of oversight is effectively nullified.

And that will obviously have serious repercussions when you have someone who lacks character in the Oval Office,

but it will also repercussions for any president who follows.

And so there's a lot at stake in this fight.

It's not just over whether a certain witness testifies it's over whether we have a system of checks and balances that still works.

Okay.

Grover?

How the way you go on Fox News, Grover just told me he went up at the comedy store last night.

The comedy store.

That takes balls, because that's not a conservative audience.

It's just a fun.

Did they laugh?

...