Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series Real Time with Bill Moe.

Okay, here we are, Michael Steele. Do you think that a Republican will challenge Trump for the nomination in 2020?

The short answer is no, but there will be probably someone like a bin sass, a senator who has been very critical of the president for quite some time.

And now whether he gets into it directly, what about a Bull Moe's party?

Well, I mean, well, in 1912, not tonight to tell you about 1912, but in 1912, the Republican party split.

Yeah, 10 years ago.

If 2018 goes the way that some in the party feel it may, given how the public is really kind of roiling with all the Trump stuff,

yeah, you could see someone step up to try to save the party for 2020 in some fashion.

The fact that Roosevelt didn't win though with the popularity he had shows you the difficulties.

That will be the number of times.

John Kasich, John Kasich, Bid and Bid and Bid.

That's what I'm saying. Somebody like John Kasich.

Well, I mean, but like some, we, it's funny when you, when you watch the liberal news channels, it's all Republicans like you and Nicole Wallace and Charlie Sykes and Rick Wilson, you know, Steve Schmidt.

It's all we see is great Republicans.

Smart Republicans.

Reasonable Republicans.

You think that was the whole party?

That's the only U.S. I must say.

That's the game, 90% of Republicans are sold.

That's the game both the networks play, right?

Fox has these people who are just this much to the left of center as their, as their liberals.

And, you know, the MSNBC has collected all six remaining sane Republicans.

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