Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series Real Time with Bill Maugh.

Alright Tristan how would you advise curbing addiction to our phones do you use apps?

Well that's of course you use apps.

One thing I've tried recently if you make your phone grayscale actually it takes out

grayscale so take the color out of your screen so if you go to the setting you can take the color out.

For me I've noticed it actually makes a big difference in how addicted I am.

Just because the colorful rewards are like reinforcing this system of I mean the red circle for example

that's part of this addictive element so when you take that out turn off notifications is very simple

I highly recommend that but grayscale actually for me is quite a bit.

Jesus people are such fucking chimps.

Evolution 1.0 all the way up.

Easy to bring in manip-

Oh geez that's depressing.

Jim would you still advocate a third party candidate for president?

Our system needs something different this thing isn't working.

Actually I thought Ben Sass was a really really good guest for you and he's like one of the few people.

I like him.

And they're talking differently thinking differently and I think like the politics the thing where Trump could have been good

was that the place needed something big it needed an earthquake.

Washington is basically ungovernable except for when you have all party rule.

And so the only time anything's gotten done in the last 12 years is the two years when Bush had all party rule

two years when Obama had all party rule and now Republicans are blowing it because they have all Republican rule

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