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Adult Child

Overcoming the Fear of Intimacy: Avoidant attachment, Emotional Safety & Real Connection w/ Paul Gilmartin

Adult Child

Andrea

Relationships, Health & Fitness, Education, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Mental Health

4.91.8K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

When the people who were supposed to protect you also hurt you, your nervous system learns: closeness is dangerous. This is a conversation about what it takes to finally let yourself receive the love you’ve been craving your whole life — without running from it when it shows up.

Paul Gilmartin is a comedian and writer best known as the host of The Mental Illness Happy Hour, a podcast that’s been exploring the messier side of the human mind for over a decade. He shares about his own path through addiction, recovery, and learning how to build a healthy relationship after a lifetime of avoiding intimacy.

Key Takeaways

  • Why Avoidants Pull Away – How childhood trauma wires your nervous system to see closeness as unsafe, even when you crave connection.
  • Overcoming the Fear of Intimacy – Paul’s path from avoiding commitment to building a secure, deeply connected relationship.
  • Dating with Boundaries – What happens when you create a plan for slow, intentional dating… and what it means when you throw it out the window.
  • Breaking Old Attraction Patterns – How Paul stopped chasing red flags and learned to spot emotional availability.
  • Healthy Love Without Losing Yourself – Building a relationship where both partners have full, independent lives and connection feels like “the ice cream on top.”
  • When Vulnerability Changes Everything – The surprising power of disclosing your story early on, and why the right person won’t run.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Intimacy is the capacity to be rather weird with someone in finding that that's okay with them.

0:07.8

My name is Andrea and this is a little child.

0:10.0

Yeah, hey, now. Welcome back to Let it all go

0:21.6

What's making you slow now?

0:24.6

Let it all go

0:26.6

Welcome back to an old child, where we take a deep dive into the impact of growing up in a dysfunctional family.

0:33.6

Ahoy, my dear shit shows.

0:35.5

For any new listeners, my name is Andrea.

0:38.4

I am a total and complete shit show.

0:40.9

I'm a recovering alcoholic.

0:42.4

I'm an adult child of an alcoholic and dysfunctional family.

0:45.7

And if you're wondering what the hell an adult child is,

0:47.6

an adult child is somebody whose unresolved childhood pain is surfacing and playing out in adulthood.

0:53.4

And no, not in a good way, not in a good way,

0:56.3

people pleasing, approval seeking, overdeveloped sense of responsibility, fear of people and

1:00.8

authority figures, an inability to say no, fear of abandonment, fear of engulfment, difficulty

1:06.9

expressing your emotions, a tendency to be attracted to the emotionally unavailable.

1:29.7

And that's just some of the lovely side effects that we're dealing with here, folks. So if you related to some of those, you're in the right place. This is the podcast where we talk about what the hell to do about it. We curse here. You've been warned. I'm an acquired taste. You've been warned. Welcome aboard this hot mess of a ship. Buckle up. So today, folks, we are revisiting an episode with Fanfave, friend of the pod. You know him, you love him, you love his podcast, host of the

1:36.9

Mental Illness Happy Hour, Mr. Paul Gil Martin. Now, this is a raw, real, no bullshit conversation between two recovering chit shows about

1:48.9

navigating relationships with insecure attachment styles, with complex trauma, about intimacy,

1:56.0

the fear of engulfment, learning to let yourself be seen, and what navigating a healthy relationship

2:04.5

actually looks like when you've never been in one before. Yeah. And as always with Paul,

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