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John Andrew Bryant is a writer and part-time street pastor in Pittsburgh.

His new book is A Quiet Mind to Suffer with.

Mental illness, trauma, and the death of Christ.

Our topic today.

Welcome, Pastor Bryant. Hey, it's an honor to be here.

Thank you. Let me ask you a question. What is a street pastor? A street pastor is an open-air

chaplain, at least in my case, to administer what I call the sacrament of presence in a hard,

hard place.

So a lot of spending time with people in addiction, highly traumatized population,

people that just aren't doing well.

And being a bridge to resources, but mostly just providing presence and letting that be what I offer. So that's been the job for

about four, four years now going on five. And you're still at it and you're going to stay at it?

I still at it. I still going to stay at it. There's a joy. There's a gladness there. It's a hidden

one because the work can be so devastating. But Christ

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