that disappointment around the peace that I'm supposed to have.

I talk about peace in the book as this three-tiered thing, that is peace with God, peace with people, and peace within.

And sometimes we want peace within without doing the work of peace with people.

And so we're like, I'm trying to skip over the healing part, the forgiveness part, the working through the ugliness of betrayal, but I want

inner peace. And God is like, no, you can't do that. You don't get to skip steps. You have to be

at peace with me, which is the work he's done on the cross.

And if we accept his work, then we can have peace with him.

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I mean, that is just like real life, ha, ha viv.

Oh, yeah.

But more than that, she is also the CEO of the Jude 3 Project.

So Lisa, welcome.

We're so glad that you're with us.

And I'd love for you to start out and go ahead and unpack the Jude 3 project.

And then we'll roll it back to who you are.

Okay, but I kind of set that up because I'm curious.

Yeah.

So G3 Project is a Christian Apologetics organization, really dedicated to helping black

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