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Someone observed that it's challenging to be single and lonely, but it's a lot worse to be married and lonely.

And we're going to be talking about that today.

Thanks for joining us.

I'm John Fuller, along with Dr. Greg Smalley and his wife, the almost doctor, Aaron Smalley, who lead the Focus Marriage team.

And we're going to get going here real quick with a clip

featuring Focus on the Family President Jim Daly, talking with Dr. Heather Holloman and her

husband, Ashley, about loneliness in marriage.

Hey, Heather, let me start with you. We did have some discussions previously. And you are in that

university setting. You're teaching, you know, late teen, early 20-somethings.

And there seems to be a lot of loneliness expressed from that group. When researchers do the

studies, they're saying it's one of the loneliest groups that they've seen at that age for as long as

they've done some of the research.

So I guess a basic question before we even apply this to marriage and what's happening there,

what's going on in the culture where people that are so connected digitally today feel so alone?

Well, one of the problems is we found just, we wrote this book,

really talked about writing the six

conversations because of what we called the culture of inscivility just people were really suspicious

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