real quick before we get started, we are doing a live taping of this podcast on June 28th,

that's next week in New York City. I'll be talking about artificial intelligence,

augmented reality and consciousness with friend of the pod, Steven Johnson, who's working at Google

to build a new suite of AI tools, David Chalmers, the philosopher who came up with the hard problem

of consciousness, and John Borthwick, the legendary venture capitalist and CEO of BetaWorks.

You can get more information and buy tickets at betaworks.com slash events.

I'm Rufus Griskem and this is the next big idea. Today, part two of my conversation with Peter

Ratia about the science and art of longevity.

Last week on the show, we shared the first half of a two-hour conversation I had recently

with Dr. Peter Ratia, the Stanford trained physician who's written a new book,

a New York Times number one bestseller called Outlive, The Science and Art of Longivity.

If you haven't listened to that episode yet, I encourage you to pause this one and go check it out.

It's called Outlive Part One. Peter and I spoke about why he thinks modern medicine, as it's

typically practiced, is not very effective at helping people live longer and better. And did we

did a deep dive on exercise? Peter presents a compelling argument that the single best thing you can

do for your overall health is work out a lot, both strengths training and cardio. He has persuaded me,

I'm already in the last couple weeks taking it up a notch, although I have a lot more work to do.

Today, in part two of our conversation, we get into the other key pillars of health,

sleep, nutrition, and emotional well-being. I started by asking Peter about the mood-boosting,

mind-clearing, life-extending power of a good night's sleep.

It feels like a relatively easy win. I guess we don't want to use the term easy, because for many

of us sleep is a real issue. But the benefits that I felt in my own life when I decided to just

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