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We talk again to Stephanie Wright,

a member of the She Explorers team,

about the most magical place

she has taken her oral kayaks so far. I'm Gail Straub and you're listening to She Explores.

This week we're doing something a little

different sharing an episode of a podcast I admire deeply with you.

I like to describe out there as exploring big questions through intimate stories in the outdoors.

This is Willow Belden, the host and producer of Out There Podcast, and the show is exactly what she said.

I'm confident that it's right up your alley.

Willow is the real deal.

She worked as a reporter at Wyoming Public Radio before starting her show.

I had chatted with her about how it all came about.

It came about actually. I had been working at the NPR Station in Wyoming, which was by all

accounts a really good job. I loved my colleagues. I had a great boss. I like it was work that I thought was meaningful and interesting, but and I think a lot of people can relate to this, but I just didn't love it enough. I didn't love it enough to make it worth the amount of stress it was, but I didn't know what I wanted to do instead.

And you know people would always say, well, what would you rather be doing?

And I would say, well, if I knew that, I'd already be doing it and I would say well if I knew that I'd already be doing it. So finally I

said all right well I don't know how to figure this out except by taking some

time off so I quit my job and I did a through hike of the Colorado

Trail which goes from Denver to Durango it's 500 miles so it's you know sort of

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