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Out There

Out of the Shadows

Out There

Willow Belden

Wilderness, Sports, Nature, Science

4.6608 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Growing up, Erin Parisi knew she was a girl. But the body she was born with didn't match. And she didn't feel safe telling anyone her secret. It wasn't until decades later that she finally mustered the courage to come out.

On this episode, we share Erin's story. It's a story that takes us from a small town in the U.S. to the the top of world's highest mountains, and explores what can happen when you decide to risk everything and become the person you know you are.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Willow Belden and you're listening to Out There, the podcast that explores big questions through intimate stories outdoors.

0:11.0

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0:18.7

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0:24.2

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1:16.1

Have you ever had a part of you that you felt you had to keep secret?

1:22.1

Something so deep and personal that you simply couldn't reveal it to anyone?

1:31.4

On today's episode, we have a story about hiding, about knowing that the person you are doesn't match the body you're born into, and about finally taking a leap of faith, despite all the risks.

1:40.1

Natalia Luderman has the story, and I should note that this episode does reference an assault at one point.

1:47.3

It comes up around minute 20 if you want to skip past it.

1:51.6

Also, stick around at the end of the episode for some LGBTQ affirming resources if you need them.

1:58.3

I'll let Natalia take it from here.

2:15.5

Thank you. if you need them. I'll let Natalia take it from here. March of 2017 finds Erin Parisi sitting on an airplane.

2:19.3

She's 25 hours from arriving in Tanzania.

2:23.3

At the airport, she knows there will be a fingerprint system that could flag her for having two identities.

2:29.3

She's debating whether or not it's safe to enter the restroom during her layover.

2:35.0

Three days earlier, she was assaulted in her own neighborhood.

2:40.0

And when she does finally arrive, the man who will be meeting her at the airport thinks she'll be the cousin of the person she used to be.

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