Well everyone's getting excited Steve because coming soon is the second in the

series of Ricky Gervais Guide 2 and it's natural history. Natural history is a

big topic Rick. It is a big topic but I think we proved we're up to the

task. We just recorded it. It's great. It's a wonderful guide to anyone. I should

just make it clear in case people are worried about what your credentials are.

Of course you've been a big fan and you've studied natural history for many

many many years. Yeah it was my first love from science and natural history from

from early age 4, 5, 6. I did biology, chemistry and physics at A-Level and I

went actually went to university to study biology and I gave up after two

weeks because it was too many lectures and I swapped to philosophy which was

seven hours a week. I shall in hope be arbitrating the conversation between

yourself. A man who you know by no means mission knows a lot about the subject.

Who else will you be talking with? I'll be talking to you Stephen and Carl

Wilkton who is our ace in the whole world because a lot of people their

professors they've studied this, they've studied the apes. We've got an ape.

Yeah it's essentially the words you know straight from the donkey's

mouth as it were. No he's definitely more of a donkey. Yeah let's play him a

little clip. This clip starts at a point in the discussion where I was talking

about how perfect animals are by definition and we ask Carl if he could

improve on that to design the best animal ever. This is what the fool said.

Had I've like an armadillo's body. Right okay so that's as big as you can be

now then. So you can't really pop on a lion's head because it just lay

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