Hey there. I want to introduce you to a few folks. Some of the people who make this show with me

because I use the word I a lot here, but I do not make this show by myself, which is why I sometimes

use the word we. As we wrap up a big year around here, I want you to hear some of the voices that

I'm listening to all the time that guide the making of this show. We got together a couple of weeks

ago on Zoom. I've got with me our consulting managing producer Daisy Rosario. Hello! Thanks for having

me, Dan. Thank you so much for being here and thank you for being part of this team. Our editor,

Marion Wang. Hello. And Emily P. Secretta, who joined as our intern really this year now our associate

producer, meaning you make the show with me. Hey Dan. I'm not going to play you all of our

conversation. Turns out hosting a conversation like that for a podcast is a whole skill. One that I

could still use some work on. I just want to give you a few highlights to give you a clearer

sense of how we make this show. This is an arm in the leg. I show about why healthcare costs so

freaking much and what we can maybe do about it. I'm Dan Weisman. I'm a reporter and I like a

challenge. So my job here is to take on one of the most enraging, terrifying, depressing parts of

American life and bring you a show that's entertaining and empowering and useful. And to do that,

I need a lot of help and guidance. Daisy Rosario has been with this show from the beginning.

Her title is Consulting Managing Producer, which is a title we made up. Here's what it means.

I was looking for an editor. I come from newsrooms having an editor as a partner to bounce story ideas

off of and draft and just everything. That's a must. And I started thinking if I were to make a show

like this, it's a public radio station. Not only would I have an editor, a boss, but my editor would

have a boss. Somebody we'd both meet with to get big picture guidance like beyond story to story.

What are we trying to achieve as a project? And how will we do it? I was like, I should definitely

have somebody in that role. And it was me. Yeah, I mean, it felt great from our first conversation.

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