Our Updated AGI Timeline, 57% Job Automation Risk, and Solving the US Debt Crisis w/ Naveen Jain, Salim Ismail & Alexander Wisner-Gross | EP #212
Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
PHD Ventures
4.8 • 605 Ratings
🗓️ 4 December 2025
⏱️ 123 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is the sprint to the finish where now we have the top handful of frontier labs all competing to one-up each other, maybe not on a quarterly basis, maybe it goes to weekly and then daily before the finish line. |
| 0:11.0 | I think we're seeing Anthropic as the Frontier Lab that has decided to be in the vanguard of treating its frontier models as moral clients at minimum and at maximum as persons. |
| 0:23.6 | Who chooses those values? |
| 0:25.6 | And what happens when different labs encode different values and morals into their large language models? |
| 0:34.6 | That AI can automate already 57% of current US work, and the demand for AI fluency has grown 7x in two years. |
| 0:43.3 | It's the fastest rising skill in the US. |
| 0:46.3 | I really think learning to learn really becomes a trick here. |
| 0:50.3 | If we find ourselves in a future where we've experienced economic hypergrowth due to AI over the next three plus years, |
| 0:56.1 | it's not just the debt crisis that we'd be talking about solving. |
| 0:59.1 | It's just about every other human problem as well that would be on the table. |
| 1:05.0 | Now that's the moonshot, ladies and gentlemen. |
| 1:09.9 | Hey, Navine, so you landed yesterday from Antarctica? |
| 1:13.5 | I sure did, as a matter of fact. |
| 1:15.1 | It was amazing, amazing experience. |
| 1:18.0 | Did you go with your whole family? |
| 1:19.5 | I sure did. |
| 1:20.7 | How long? |
| 1:22.3 | For six days. |
| 1:23.6 | And I think it's as close to landing on the moon as one can get on planet Earth. |
| 1:29.7 | I bet. |
| 1:30.3 | Did you like supplement your amazing asteroid or meteorite collection? |
| 1:33.5 | Did you go meteorite hunting? |
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