Our Ship of State is a Ship of Fools...and That's Not a Good Thing

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Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.5 • 1.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Let’s be honest, Donald Trump is the captain of a ship of fools. Nowhere is this more clear than in the realms of foreign policy and defense, where folks like Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard run rampant. What does this descent into madness mean for our country? Ed Luce, Rosa Brooks, and Kori Schake join David Rothkopf to answer this critical question and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:18.2	Hello and welcome to Deep State Radio here in the darkest depths of the summer.
1:24.4	I'm David Rothkopf, and I am joined, of course, by Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University
1:31.0	Law Center, who's off someplace else distant. How are you, Rosa? I'm very well, David.
1:38.5	Excellent. And by Ed Luce, who I know is here in Washington because I've been hearing him complaining about it
1:45.6	ever since he arrived. How are you, Ed? I'm good in spite of having returned to Washington.
1:53.0	Well, you know, somebody has got to be here and keep an eye on things, and I'm glad that it's you.
1:59.2	I'm right outside of Washington, and frankly, I try not to go
2:02.3	in unless I absolutely must. Well, let me start with this, Ed, because I know you are off, you know,
2:08.8	that in our listeners, because they're very plugged in, they know that every summer, all the
2:13.5	world's elites go off to these kind of retreats and they plan out everybody's lives,
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