Our political future and an interview that moved me deeply
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🗓️ 26 February 2026
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Commentators are still responding to President Trump’s “State of the Union” address in the predictably partisan ways you would expect. I genuinely grieve to see the depth of rancor and bitterness that exists in our country toward fellow Americans with whom we happen to disagree politically. And I genuinely question whether our democratic experiment can be sustained while we sustain such animosity toward one another. To encourage us toward this end, I’d like to reflect with you on a recent interview that has marked me in profound ways.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Denison Forum's Daily Article podcast for Thursday, February the 26th, 20206. I'm Chris Elkins, narrating today's daily article written by published author and philosopher, Dr. Jim Denison. |
| 0:17.2 | Commentators are still responding to President Trump's State of the Union address in the predictably partisan ways you would expect. |
| 0:24.6 | Reactions have been from such polar opposites that an uninformed observer could question whether they are responding to the same speech. |
| 0:33.6 | I genuinely grieve to see the depth of rancor and bitterness that exists in our country toward fellow Americans with whom we happen to disagree politically. |
| 0:42.9 | And I genuinely question whether our democratic experiment can be sustained while we sustain such animosity toward one another. |
| 0:51.6 | In 1774, John Wesley advised those who would be voting in an upcoming |
| 0:57.0 | election, one, to vote without fee or reward for the person they judged most worthy, two, to speak |
| 1:04.6 | no evil of the person they voted against, and three, to take care of their spirits were not |
| 1:10.6 | sharpened against those that voted |
| 1:12.2 | on the other side. |
| 1:13.9 | End quote. |
| 1:14.8 | Don't you wish more Americans would take his advice? |
| 1:17.7 | To encourage us toward this end, I'd like to reflect with you on a recent interview that |
| 1:22.7 | has marked me in profound ways. |
| 1:25.0 | As you may know, the former U.S. Senator and college president, Dr. Ben Sass, |
| 1:30.3 | recently announced that he is dying of pancreatic cancer. In a podcast he taped with Peter Robinson |
| 1:36.4 | of the Hoover Institution, it is clear that Dr. Sass is suffering. Tumors have filled his spine |
| 1:42.7 | and torso. He is on heavy medications to manage his |
| 1:46.2 | pain and hopefully extend his life. Nonetheless, his reflections on life and what matters most |
| 1:52.6 | are both brilliant and wise. I urge you to watch the entire conversation. A link to it is in |
| 1:58.6 | today's podcast episode notes. For our purposes today, |
| 2:02.5 | I'll focus on the interviewer's question as to whether Ben's decade devoted to politics was |
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