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The Gist

Our National Intelligence Is Broken

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

News, Daily News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2020

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

For the next week, Mike passes the mic to a few guest hosts. Today, Annie Duke, former professional poker player and author of Thinking in Bets: Making Smarter Decisions When You Don't Have All the Facts takes the helm. On the Gist, Annie recaps the unifying messages from Sen. Sanders and V.P. Biden from the virtual 2020 Democratic National Convention. In the interview, Annie talks with Jay van Bavel, an associate professor of psychology and neuroscience at NYU, about how extreme partisanship occurs when traditional beliefs are not updated in rational ways, especially when it comes to wearing a mask during the global pandemic. Prof. van Bavel explains how a partisan mind interprets information in a way that affirms their identity, and how that might lead them to stray from the path of facts. In the Spiel, the consequences of partisanship. Email us at thegist@slate.com Podcast production by Daniel Schroeder and Margaret Kelley. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following program may contain explicit language.

0:07.2

It's Friday, August 21st, 2020.

0:10.0

From Slate, it's the gist.

0:13.0

I'm Annie Duke sitting in from Mike Pesca.

0:16.0

In case you don't know who I am,

0:17.5

I'm a former World Champion poker player, cognitive scientist,

0:21.1

an author of Thinking and Bats,

0:23.0

and my new book How to Decide out in September.

0:26.5

I've recently been playing some pandemic Zoom poker with Mike

0:29.8

where he's been sorting out his spills for the gist

0:32.8

and well, I've been taking his money.

0:35.8

So I've been thinking a lot lately about tribalism in America,

0:41.8

the way that we're divided into these political tribes,

0:44.8

and it feels like those tribes are getting smaller and smaller

0:49.8

and smaller, so there's just so many more opportunities

0:52.8

for us versus them.

0:54.8

And I think about the politics when I was growing up in it.

0:57.8

It feels like yes, there were Republicans and Democrats,

1:00.8

and they were, you know, for certain things

1:04.8

and against other things and against each other

1:06.8

and for their own tribe,

1:08.8

but we had this broader identity as Americans united together

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