Mistrust Your Memory

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

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4.5 • 3.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2020

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

For the next week, Mike passes the mic to a few guest hosts. Today, Annie Duke, former professional poker player, cognitive scientist, and author of Thinking in Bets: Making Smarter Decisions When You Don't Have All the Facts is in the seat again. On the Gist, remembering information. In the interview, Annie talks to Katherine Milkman, a researcher and professor at the University of Pennsylvania who studies behavior, about how the pandemic has thrown everybody out of their old habits and forced the creation of new ones. They discuss how sticky any of these new habits might be, and that we should be aware of how quickly we can forget all that we've learned. In the Spiel, the national misremembering of truth. Email us at thegist@slate.com Podcast production by Daniel Schroeder and Margaret Kelley. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The following program has the potential dare I say probability to give offense.
0:08.5	It's Monday, August 24th, 2020. From sleep, it's the gist.
0:14.0	I'm Annie Duke, sitting in from Mike Pesca.
0:17.0	In case you don't know who I am, I'm a former World Champion poker player,
0:21.0	cognitive scientist and author of Thinking and Bet.
0:24.0	As well as my new book How to Decide, Out in September, and available for pre-order now.
0:29.2	Yes, that was a naked plug.
0:32.0	I spent the weekend trying to perfect Mike's gravely 1930s gum shoe detective voice,
0:37.7	but to no avail. I guess I'll have to keep working on it.
0:40.9	So yesterday, President Trump called a press conference to announce that the FDA was approving
0:46.8	and emergency use authorization for convalescent plasma, in treating COVID-19 patients.
0:53.9	Now, for those of you who don't know what convalescent plasma is, basically, you take plasma from
0:58.7	people who've recovered from COVID, so they presumably have antibodies, and you give it to people
1:04.0	who are sick with COVID, which should theoretically help their immune systems to battle COVID.
1:10.8	Now, I'm not a medical doctor, so I'm not going to get into the specifics of whether convalescent plasma
1:17.8	seems like a reasonable treatment for COVID-19, and I'm certainly not going to get into whether it
1:22.9	was reasonable for the FDA to be offering this UA in regards to convalescent plasma. That certainly
1:28.7	wouldn't be my real house. What I'm more interested in is how things get spread around the internet,
1:36.2	how we start to believe that things that aren't true are. So you might be wondering, what does an
1:41.7	emergency use authorization have to do with how people end up believing things that aren't true?
1:48.8	Well, it has to do with something that Stephen Hahn said, who's the FDA commissioner,
1:54.0	as he characterized what the effectiveness in this Mayo Clinic study was of convalescent plasma.
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