We've got to address the suburban women problem because it's real.

Suburban women helped determine the 2020 election, but there's more to us in the headlines

would have you believe. The suburbs aren't a homogeneity of white people in perfect houses.

Real change is happening in the suburbs, and we have things to say when women share their personal stories

walls come down and barriers are broken welcome to the suburban women problem a podcast from red

wine and blue hi everyone thanks for listening i'm amanda weinstein. I'm Jasmine Clark. I'm Rachel Vindman.

And this is the suburban women problem. Welcome back and thank you for being part of this amazing

community. Speaking of community, here in America, we love to hold up independence and self-reliance

as the ideal. But when you really dig into it, you realize that nobody can be successful

on their own.

We all had help in becoming who we are today. We all had support. We all used infrastructure,

social infrastructure, the connections from other people, the connections to our community.

So we're going to talk about those mythical bootstraps and how important it is to have

empathy for people who've had

different life experiences than us. Later on, Beverly Bat, who works at Red, Wine and Blue, and is one

of the women behind the scenes of this podcast, will join us and share her story. And after that,

I sit down with Cheryl Woodon, author of Half the Sky and Tightrope, about poverty in America and the importance of empathy.

So let's talk about it. Why do people still hold on to this idea of individualism and pulling

yourself up by your bootstraps? What do you guys think? I think that this idea of being self-made

is one of those things that we present to people, but it's a fantasy

world. It's a myth. It's not how it actually works. I had a friend, her name is Liz, and she used to

always say what of her biggest regrets was that she was not born to rich parents. And it's always funny

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