Hi, everyone, I'm Joanna. And I'm Jenny. And this is hyphenated, the podcast about living in the hyphen. How are you, Jenny?

I love how you're automatically laughing before I give an answer.

I, I'm just tired.

I feel like tired has become like my personality trait.

You know how some women have babies and that's their new personality is like being a mom?

I'm like tired and I just feel like that's enough for me to be like, I'm a tired person.

Like that's just who I am.

I'm Venezuelan. I'm tired.

And I love cheese. Like, that's, that's it. That describes me. Well, no, it's especially the anthem of us invisible illness warriors. It's like, tired and inspired. Oh, God, inspired. I've seen that on

multiple t-shirts. That's exhausting. Yeah. I can't imagine being inspired, honestly. I've seen that on multiple T-shirts. That's exhausting.

Yeah.

I can't imagine being inspired, honestly.

I'm just trying to get through, dude.

Seriously.

So, Jenny, I have a question.

You know how a lot of people claim that I always read these interviews of people.

Like, I knew I had to be an artist or like,

I knew I had to be a comedian and like, I knew I had to be a director. And they always have this very epic story. Like, well, I was watching a Hitchcock film and I realized that the

tension that, you know, I saw on screen resembled the

tension that I, like, whatever. There's always this grandiose story for why you choose what you do.

And I realized that every time I got asked that question, I didn't really have a grandiose story

other than like, yeah, I was like an anxious kid and I moved around a lot and I was bullied so I just needed something. Do you know what I mean? And like that's not a grandiose story. That's just like context for who I am. What do you like when you get asked that question in interviews, like what is your response? I wish I had like a big moment, like a big epiphany moment.

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