All right, 321. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on tonight's show of a very special guest. His name is David Livingston or Stone. He has published many books, but he's just recently put out of work that's very impressive, encyclopedic in its knowledge, and definitely parapolitical, a lot of a cult material in there. The title of the book, which you can find online, is Ordoab-A-O-C-O. And if you can see on YouTube, you can see it's all spelled out. So it's orderab-cao.c-cao.cai, I believe. So if you like to check that, I've been reading through it today. I didn't have time to go through the whole material. There's tons of stuff. Six total, really almost books in themselves. But he's also written other books. The Dying God, the Hidden History of Western Civilization published in 2002. Black, Terror, White Soldiers, Islam, Fascism, and the New Age, published June 2013.

Transhumanism, very timely topic.

Transhumanism, the history of a dangerous idea, 2015.

And terrorism and the Illuminati, a 3,000-year history.

And I've read through that book.

I was published in 2017.

So, Mr. Livingston, are you there?

I'm here. It's Stone. Livingstone, are you there? I'm here.

It's Stone or Living Stone, right?

I think it's Stone, yeah.

Okay.

For people who haven't heard your name or may not be familiar with work, can you talk a little bit about your background and what led you to this work that you've published online?

Order up, CAO. Yeah. It's... background and what led you to this work that you published online order at the care yeah um it's it's now 30 years of study so um this is why my you know the my my recent book is really

is is is uh it's very much the the the result of all that effort.

So, you know, I've even shocked myself at the amount of new ideas and concepts that I was able to discover,

even though I've been added for so long. I thought I touched a lot of topics, but this is, so many of them are brand new and so pivotal,

like so crucial to understanding the bigger picture.

Basically, what I've been trying to do the last 30 years is understand the history of the occult.

And, of course, that's not just for its own sake.

It's because those who spearhead this tradition have attained, especially in the last couple of centuries, positions

of very important influence, where they've basically been able to orchestrate most of the recent

events. So to understand what they've done, why they've done it, and ideally, if we can try

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