Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to the gray zone. We're almost on time today.

I'm Max Blumenthal, founder of the gray zone here with award-winning Canadian journalist Aaron Matte on another momentous day.

We're also live on Rock Finn and Twitter. Welcome, Aaron. How's it going?

How's it going, Max? How's it going everybody? Thanks for tuning in, being with us.

Please like the stream. Please share it. And we got a very special guest to react to this ruling

at the International Court of Justice today on the case brought by South Africa

against Israel over genocide.

And let's bring him in now.

His name is Craig McIber.

He is a longtime diplomat, former senior UN official who resigned his position recently in protest

of the UN's handling or lack of

handling inaction over Israel's genocide in Gaza. Craig, thank you for joining us. Great to be here

with both of you. Thanks. Let me just start by asking you your top line reaction to the ruling

today from the ICJ. I mean I've seen all the

debate happening on Twitter I have to say for me this is an absolutely historic victory for

Palestine and for South Africa and for the world in many ways because it is the first really

significant crack in Israeli impunity that we have seen for decades and decades, maybe ever.

You had an almost unanimous court decision, almost unanimous because, of course, there was an Israeli ad hoc judge who was there,

who by the way, didn't vote no on everything. And then a very strange dissent from the Ugandan judge, but every other judge

on the court voted that South Africa had made a plausible case that Israel is committing genocide,

and the court ordered Israel to stop all of the related actions. The so-called provisional measures included a call,

not just for Israel to take some reasonable measures or some measures,

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