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Pushback with Aaron Mate

Norman Finkelstein on Gaza - live in NYC

Pushback with Aaron Mate

Pushback with Aaron Maté

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4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2023

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Norman Finkelstein, historian and scholar, joins Aaron Maté for a live discussion about Israel's war on Gaza, the meaning of Hamas' atrocities, the question of genocide and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and U.S. complicity. Recorded live in NYC on Nov. 7th, 2023.

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0:00.0

It's great to be here with Norman.

0:06.0

I can think a few people on this earth who have done more to educate us on the realities of

0:13.0

the Israel-Palestine issue than Norman Finkelstein, who's been involved for more than 40 years,

0:18.0

has written countless articles, many books on this topic, including his latest

0:22.9

on the issue was called Gaza, an inquest into its martyrdom. Norman, I want to just begin

0:29.7

with a general question, asking you to talk about one month into this latest Israeli assault

0:35.6

on Gaza. We're now talking about the most murderous

0:39.5

Israeli assault today.

0:42.7

As we're reporting this, the official toll is more than 10,000 Palestinians have been killed,

0:49.0

including more than 4,200 children.

0:51.7

And that number is more than double the amount of children that have been

0:57.6

killed by Israel since 1967. So in just one month, Israel has already killed, double the

1:04.2

number of Palestinian children that it killed since 1967. So Norman, and the hard part about these saying these figures is by the time

1:14.2

you say them, they're already outdated because this massacre is unfolding in real time. So Norman,

1:19.1

let me just begin asking you your assessment of Israel Assault one month in, what do you think

1:24.7

their goals are, if they really have any, beyond just extermination? And do you think their goals are if they really have any beyond just extermination.

1:28.9

And do you think the term genocide is appropriate?

1:34.3

Well, thank you for having me.

1:37.4

I was surprised when I realized today it was one month since the Israeli assault began.

1:51.2

It feels like it's just been one long, continuous day with occasional breaks.

2:01.7

And I have to say on a totally self-indulgent note,

2:07.4

I feel completely depleted at this point.

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