Welcome to Black Girl Burnout. Kelly here. And today is the last part of our three-part series with our special guest, Dr. Cassandra Dunbar.

It's been a pleasure talking to her. She's great, and I know you all are seeing that for yourselves in the episodes. We close out the conversation this week by talking about how she's

pursuing joy and community and abundance and all the rich things that our inheritance as

black women is in her personal life.

Cassandra's truly an inspiration, and Be Well, Sis, her podcast is streaming across all platforms.

We will have all the information about how to connect with Dr. Cassandra Dunbar in our show notes.

So without any further delay,

let's jump right back into this powerful conversation and learn how Cassandra opts into joy

in her personal life.

So last but not least, I want to talk to you about joy.

We've talked about ways to opt out of struggle and how struggle influences and permeates kind of the black woman's experience with their health.

But we don't talk enough about joy.

And the real theme this year of the podcast

is all about joy i do believe that instead of struggle our our birthright our inheritance

our legacy is one of joy and abundance and community which you mentioned earlier and having

kind of beauty in your life and so i wanted to ask you in a personal level,

how do you pursue joy? You've been in struggle before. You've been very transparent,

honest about some difficulties in your life. How do you pursue joy? And I want to know,

like, in all areas of your life, how are you pursuing joy professionally and personally and

with your health? How does that show up for you?

Ooh, I love this question because I've been thinking a lot about joy lately and about how

one day I want to be a really dope old lady. And to be a dope old lady, you have to like live life and really, just really center

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