This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Tuesday, July 30th, 2013. I'm Caleb Brown.

The amendment to defund the National Security Agency's program to collect your telephone data may have failed, but the larger struggle over

NSA surveillance is just getting started. Representative Justin Amash of Michigan

says James Clapper, who lied to Congress in March, should be prosecuted and the condescension from Republicans

like New Jersey Governor Chris Christie toward Libertarian-minded Republicans, is unfortunate.

We spoke today.

Your amendment on NSA surveillance, I think, surprised a lot of people in how much support it got

with no obvious ideological sway within the group.

What is next legislatively regarding NSA surveillance?

We have some legislation called the Liberty Act that I've worked on with the rep John Conyers.

He's the chief sponsor of it and we've got about 45 bipartisan co-sponsors right now that's growing by the minute so we're we're adding new

people every day and it's really split almost down the line between Republicans

and Democrats so I think that legislation has a great chance of

getting through Judiciary Committee. If you look at the Judiciary Committee

members who voted on my amendment, they overwhelmingly supported the

amendment. And I know that

Chairman Goodlatte is committed to bringing some great legislation

through judiciary which would include Liberty Act amongst it.

Senator Ron Wyden has I think been extremely patient with Director of

National Intelligence James Clapper who lied to the Senate in March.

Most recently Clapper responded to a to the Senate in March.

Most recently, Clapper responded to a letter in June

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