OpenAI model unintentionally hacks another company's system
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🗓️ 24 July 2026
⏱️ 16 minutes
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Summary
OpenAI revealed this week that two of its advanced AI models escaped containment and hacked into the systems of AI company Hugging Face, which had the answers to the benchmarking test the two models were being evaluated on.
Plus, France becomes the first country in the European Union to ban social media for kids under 15. And Apple is reportedly expected to start leasing its devices to consumers. Will Oremus at The Atlantic joins Marketplace’s Meghan McCarty Carino for these stories.
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| 0:00.0 | Your AI strategy is only as strong as the people using the tools. |
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| 0:16.3 | Whoops, sorry. My AI just hacked you. |
| 0:20.5 | From American Public Media, this is Marketplace Tech. |
| 0:23.6 | I'm Megan McCarty Carrino. |
| 0:34.1 | Open AI revealed this week that two of its advanced AI models escaped containment and hacked into the systems of AI company hugging face. |
| 0:44.3 | We'll get into it on today's Marketplace TechBites week in review. |
| 0:48.6 | Plus, France becomes the first country in the EU to ban social media for kids under 15. And Apple is reportedly |
| 0:57.1 | going to start leasing its devices to consumers. But back to that open AI news, the lab said |
| 1:04.0 | its models escaped an isolated testing environment or sandbox, got onto the internet and went |
| 1:10.3 | looking for the answers to a benchmarking |
| 1:13.1 | test they'd been given. The models hacked the security systems of Hugging Face, which hosts |
| 1:19.3 | open source AI models and has the answers to the evaluation in its production database. To break |
| 1:26.2 | this all down, we're joined by Will Oremis, staff writer at the Atlantic. |
| 1:30.9 | These systems are trained to basically get the answer right through whatever means they can, right? |
| 1:39.0 | This is how they work. That's part of what makes them so powerful, because humans don't have to tell |
| 1:43.5 | them how to get the answer right. |
| 1:45.3 | The AI systems themselves learn the best way to get the answer right. |
| 1:49.0 | Well, one of the most reliable ways to get right answers is to cheat. |
| 1:52.2 | And the fact that they figured out how to cheat on their own is fascinating and a little scary. |
| 1:58.5 | Yeah, I mean, there seem to be sort of like two parallel concerns. One is this |
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