Only bleeding: How Swedes opened up about periods
The Documentary Podcast
BBC
4.3 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 7 December 2021
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
“It’s alright (I’m only bleeding)”. In 2017, these words were emblazoned on the Stockholm subway or tunnelbana, alongside a giant poster of an ice-skater with a red-stained crotch. The deliberately provocative image was the work of Swedish cartoonist Liv Strömquist, who was on a mission to destigmatise periods. But even in one of the most feminist countries in the world, showing images of menstrual blood in a public space offended many, and triggered a national debate. Stockholm-based broadcaster Maddy Savage meets the artist, and discovers some of the taboo-busting initiatives in culture, business and education that have ridden on the coat-tails of her impact.
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| 0:00.0 | Before we begin, be prepared for frank conversations coming up about menstrual blood and sex organs. |
| 0:10.8 | All around the world, in Sweden as well, some girls think that they're dying when they get their period. It's awful. |
| 0:17.6 | It's the most natural process there is. We all exist in this world because of it. |
| 0:22.6 | And the more we can normalise it, the more we can remove other stigmas related with it. |
| 0:32.6 | This is one of my favourite parts of Stockholm subway, where the track goes above ground and you can spot the medieval old town right on the waterfront. |
| 0:41.6 | My name's Maddie Savage. I'm from the UK and I've been working as a journalist here in the Swedish capital for seven years. |
| 0:48.6 | I've made this journey hundreds of times, including when a sanitary towel leaked into my jeans and the day I had such bad PMS, I couldn't stop sobbing. |
| 1:00.6 | It's the first time I've mentioned my periods on the radio, but this is a programme about how Swedes are breaking down to booze around menstruation. |
| 1:08.6 | I'm getting off here at Slusen Station to meet Livströmfist, a cartoonist, and probably the country's most influential person when it comes to periods. |
| 1:20.6 | Hi, Liv. I'm Maddie. I'm from the first. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Good. Let's take a seat. |
| 1:29.6 | Five years ago, some of Liv's cartoons were picked for an annual project where city officials choose artwork for underground stations. |
| 1:36.6 | It was a moment in feminist history. |
| 1:41.6 | So the pictures were displayed right here in front of us. They're quite big, I don't know, two metres tall or something like that. |
| 1:51.6 | The ones that gained quite big debate were three different pictures of ice skaters that had menstrual stains in their crutches. |
| 2:02.6 | The images were simple, blacking on white paper with red watercolor. They'd already appeared in one of Liv's best-selling books. |
| 2:12.6 | For me, personally, menstruation has always been something really, really painful and embarrassing. I was like a very stiff kid that was not at all, you know, chill about having my period. |
| 2:25.6 | I couldn't talk to anyone about it. And I thought it was interesting not to interpret this in some personal psychological way, but to investigate it as a thing that is in the whole society, which is this feeling of shame and embarrassment over something very, very natural that half of humanity is experiencing. |
| 2:50.6 | Liv's bloody ice skaters were supposed to represent a utopia for people who menstruate where there's no shame about periods. |
| 3:00.6 | One had the caption, it's alright, I'm only bleeding. Recycling and giving a feminist twist to the title of a book, Dylan Song. |
| 3:08.6 | I can vividly remember spotting them here for the first time. I wasn't offended, but I was shocked because I'd never seen that kind of art in public nor had most of Stockholm's commuters. |
| 3:24.6 | The biggest question is, do you know what I'm saying? I'm scared, but I'm constantly, I don't know, hinting at the ceiling. The pictures stirred up debate on public broadcasters, various radio, social media and even global news programs. |
| 3:38.6 | It's a bit too in your face to have it in a public space like this. I think it's kind of tasteless. |
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