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One Thing: How a Holocaust Denier Sparked a MAGA Civil War

CNN 5 Things

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Daily News, News

3.7 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Ever since Tucker Carlson interviewed White nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes, Republicans have been at odds over how to deal with what some see as a growing embrace of hateful voices like Fuentes’ within the party. But experts say voices like his might hold too much sway with young, disaffected Republicans to easily remove from the picture.  For more: Fierce backlash within GOP after Tucker Carlson gives White nationalist Nick Fuentes a platform  The world according to Candace Owens  ---  Guest: Will Sommer, Senior Reporter, The Bulwark  Host: David Rind  Producer: Paola Ortiz  Showrunner: Felicia Patinkin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is one thing. I'm David Rind, and somehow this is a real question.

0:05.0

Do Republicans want to be associated with a Holocaust denier?

0:09.1

After Trump took over, there was really no sense of like where the principles are or what line is too far to cross and who does not belong in the party.

0:17.8

Stick with us.

0:21.4

If anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump, how to defeat him, it is the city that

0:27.8

gave rise to him. Election Night 20205 was a great one for Democrats. Concerns about the economy

0:36.2

and President Donald Trump's policies

0:38.3

powered them to wins up and down the ballot, including in New York City, where voters elected

0:42.8

a Democratic Socialist for mayor in Zoran Mamdani.

0:46.2

So Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have four words for you.

0:55.0

Turn the volume up.

0:58.0

But there are still big questions about whether candidates like Mondani are the answer to the party's nationwide brand problem.

1:09.0

And with the midterms, now less than a year away,

1:11.6

Republicans have plenty of questions of their own.

1:14.6

I don't think it was good for Republicans.

1:16.6

I don't think it was good.

1:17.2

I'm not sure it was good for anybody.

1:19.1

But we had an interesting evening, and we learned a lot.

1:23.1

Do they need to focus more on affordability?

1:25.4

Will Trump's policies continue to be a drag?

1:28.2

And then there is a much bigger, more existential question gripping the Republican Party right now.

1:33.7

How much hate can we tolerate?

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