When I started the Dad Tired podcast about 10 years ago, I think we were one of the first and only podcast talking specifically to dads, especially Christian dads.

It was very rare back then.

Very few people knew about podcasting.

And there were just very few podcasts specifically geared towards dads.

And it kind of grew some hype around it because there was lots of resources for moms, but there were way less resources for dads.

Again, almost nothing in the podcast world for dads. And so back then, I was getting asked constantly, even as a brand new ministry and podcast.

We did tons of like news interviews and articles were written about dad tired and I remember publishers were asking

if I'd want to write a book. It was kind of, it was celebrated. A lot of people celebrated

it back then because it was like, look at the dads. They're trying to get their act together.

They're trying to figure this thing out. This is great. And so it was, you know, it was celebrated.

And then you fast forward a couple years and we kind of got a little bit more understanding of what we felt like God was calling us to. And so we were really back then starting to call ourselves like a gospel-centered ministry. We don't just want to be good dads. There's a lot of great dads out there. We want to be dads who are changed by the gospel. Like we are informed by the gospel,

and that changes the way that we do everything. And so when that, when I started to use that kind of language, less TV interviews, less news articles, wasn't getting asked to go on the news as much, because it, you know, it was nice. It's like, okay, you're trying to be a good dad, but I don't really get the whole Jesus thing.

And since the last, like, year, as I've been talking more about healing and Jesus getting to every nook and cranny of our lives, and to confess sin and to repent and to get into the deep, dark, nitty-gritty of our lives so that God would change all of us, so that we would be healed men because we really believe that healed men are what changed the world.

We think that strong families actually begin

with healed men. And since then, I feel like it's just gone quiet as far as like flashiness goes.

And I was actually going to bed the other day and I was feeling discouraged like I was like,

have I become old and irrelevant? Is dad tired? Not what it used to be. Is this ministry not what it used to be? Am I not helpful in the ways that I used to be? Like, how come news people aren't reaching out? And there's not, I'm speaking candidly here. There just aren't as many, like, I don't know, a better way to say, kind of like flashy media hype around Dad Tired. And part of that, I started to feel like, I was just wrestling. Like, am I, this is not helpful anymore? Is this like, do I need to find something else to do with my life? And I wasn't, I wasn't like getting, like depressed or anything about it. I was like, okay, God, maybe this is, maybe this is just like a, you're moving us into a different season. And then I started to think about it as like, dude, we're not getting like news, people reaching out. I'm not getting asked to go on TV a bunch. Articles aren't being written about dad tired, but I'm getting more text messages, more emails, more people pulling me aside when I go to an event. And guys, like, I just got

this text message from a guy. I hadn't talked to him in a long time. And he's like, dude, I just wanted

to say, thank you. Like, the stuff that you're talking about now this healing stuff like i really really needed it and i needed

to confess stuff to my wife my wife didn't know all of me and there were parts of my life that i needed

to just like that were hidden that i needed to get out there and i've i've been talking to guys who

you've been struggling with stuff since you were a kid,

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