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The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the participants, not of Reuters News. The civilians who were killed in Syria, they don't care how the United States accidentally blew them up.

They want to know how that situation is not going to happen again and how that situation is going to get fixed.

They're not worried that it was a drone, they're not worried that it was a manned airplane.

If some American soldier had ran down the street with a knife stabbing them all because he believed they were terrorists,

it wouldn't change how destructive that is to the overall American strategy. For all the notable successes, like the reported killing of Islamic State's top spokesman Mohammed Abu al-Adnani, there are misses.

Some strikes by the CIA or the Pentagon lead to civilian deaths.

This week on war college, we're talking about an issue that hasn't grabbed much

attention in the U.S. But civilian deaths have become a central issue for U.S. detractors and

allies. You're listening to Reuters War College, a discussion of the world in conflict, focusing on the stories behind the front lines.

Here are your hosts, Jason Fields, and Matthew Galt.

Hello and welcome'm Matthew Gault with War

I'm Jason Fields with Reuters.

And I'm Matthew Gault with War is Boring.

Today we're speaking with Joseph Trevithic

about one of our favorite topics, which is drone strikes.

And this week I think it's particularly current because one of Islamic States founding members, or at least that's what is being said about him,

was recently killed in a strike. His name is Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, and he's someone that has been on the wanted list for quite some time.

So Joe can you tell us a little bit about what just happened and we can sort of take it from there.

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