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The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the participants, not of Reuters news. Now why would we sell cluster bonds to a country that's committing massive human rights abuses and

killing civilians and so forth?

Even that has taken a while to become an issue. The United States is the world's largest arms merchant. It's not even close. So who decides what gets sold and to whom? And how

closely does anyone actually follow the rules? This week on War College we look at the upsides and the downsides

of having such a big discussion of a world in conflict, focusing

on the stories behind the front lines.

Here are your hosts, Jason Fields, and Matthew Galt.

Hello and welcome to War College.

I'm Jason Fields with Reuters.

And I'm Matthew Galt with Wars Boring.

The weapons industry is a multi-billion dollar business and a lot of it happens in the shadows.

Today on War College, we're talking with William Hartung.

Hartung is an expert on the Global Arms Trade,

and his work has appeared in the New York Times

and the Washington Post.

So William, thank you so much for joining us.

Yes, thanks for having me.

We wanted to start off with something that I think a lot of people already know the answer to,

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