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The Bret Baier Podcast

One on One: Former People's Liberation Army Colonel Zhou Bo

The Bret Baier Podcast

FOX News Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.1739 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

As trade tensions simmer and inflationary pressures reshape the global economy, President Trump has arrived in Beijing for a high-stakes summit with President Xi Jinping. With American interests hanging in the balance, understanding the internal calculus of the CCP is more critical than ever. One individual deeply familiar with China’s decision-making process is former People's Liberation Army Colonel and Senior Fellow at the Center for International Security and Strategy, Zhou Bo. He spoke to Bret to share the Chinese perspective on critical issues like the Iran war and Taiwanese independence, as well as where he sees U.S-China relations going in the future.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome back to Beijing. The summit begins in earnest here this morning.

0:42.4

Lifting the curtain on our setup, I've been working for several months to try to get a one-on-one

0:48.1

interview with President Xi Jinping. Chinese officials told us, because of the type timeline

0:53.3

of this summit, specifically, the logistics would not work.

0:57.0

But with both sides looking for insights into one another, we jumped at the chance to talk with someone who's been on the inside of China's decision making and knows what the CCP is thinking about this week.

1:09.0

Joe Bo is a former senior colonel in the People's

1:12.9

Liberation Army. He's now a senior fellow at the Center for International Security and Strategy

1:17.9

at the Qinghua University. He's also the author of the book, Should the World Fear China.

1:24.1

What does success look like for China in this summit? I think the fact that

1:33.0

Donald Trump is visiting China is already a success for the Chinese people. I believe things

1:39.6

have changed somewhat because this would be a kind of proof to what the Chinese people have already

1:47.0

start to believe that China is equal to the United States. And now, of course, it does

1:54.0

not mean that this is a kind of peer competitors, but we can also be on equal footing for a lot of corporations around the

2:03.6

world, right?

2:04.6

You see, during Trump's first term, he did not talk much about cooperation between China

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