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Hi, I'm Laura Vanderkamp.

I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, and speaker.

And I'm Sarah Hart Unger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, and course creator.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families.

Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.

Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, and time for fun.

From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term career goals,

we want you to get the most out of life. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. This is Laura.

This episode is airing in early December of 2025. I am going to be interviewing Dr. Rebecca Thompson, who is the author of the new book

Held Together, which is about the complicated journey to motherhood, both for her and for a number of other

women. In her journey to motherhood, she had several miscarriages that involved life-threatening complications,

including an ectopic pregnancy. She has two kids now, wonderfully. We're happy about that.

So we're thrilled that work out. But her experiences really helped inform her work, both with

women and children as a physician. And she's going to talk a lot about that and how

her personal experience formed her clinical experience. But I know many people listening to this.

I mean, so slight trigger warning here of topics of fertility are complicated for you.

We are not offended. If you want to skip this episode entirely,

we'll be back next week with something a little bit lighter. But many people's journeys

to having their families are more complicated, or at least not as set plans as you might

think, right? I mean, I'm curious, Sarah, when you were younger,

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