The I'm going to. It's the middle of summer, maybe. I don't know when you're listening to this.

It's the middle of summer, maybe.

I don't know when you're listening to this, but it could be the middle of summer.

And if it is, I want you to remember that cool refreshment is just a single spoonful away if you're putting in the work to chew.

Welcome to the empty bowl, a meditative podcast about cereal.

My name is Justin McElroy and I'm a serial enthusiast.

And my name is Gabe, I mean, my name is Dan Gubert and I am

serialously glad to be back in the co-host position and not have to introduce this show. I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you rally off the dome like that.

You know what? It's amazing, Dan. I just kind of open up my heart and open up my mouth and just see what doubles out.

Let the spirit of cereal talk through you.

Yeah, exactly and that's going to be our MO for the next half hour or so we're just going to have

a relaxed conversation about cereal. Not a lot changing I would say in the in the world of cereal right now. It's a it's a little bit of a stagnant period. But hey's what we like here this is a meditative

podcast about serial not a pulse pounding throw-up. I think serial was just waiting for you

to get back it said it wouldn't be fair to make any huge developments well just in a way. It said it wouldn't be fair to make any huge developments

well Justin's away. Yeah. Um, Dan, the big story and I've been seeing

this surfaced even outside of my usual channels is the Kelsey Mix.

The Kelsey Mix. This is one that is pretty crazy to me. It's like so the brothers Travis and

Jason Kelsey famous athletes as the extent of my knowledge on the subject. I'm a

serial guy not a football guy.

They're both football players?

They're notably the current bow and arm candy of Taylor Swift.

Do you know that? They both play football, right? Is that true? I believe that is true.

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