On the ground in the new Calais Jungle
The Politics Show
The New Statesman
4.2 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 10 October 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Almost 10 years ago the Calais 'Jungle' was demolished by the French authorities, structures were burned to the ground and the migrants were forced to flee, once again.
Small-boats crossings are on the rise, and for those waiting for their chance, a new 'Jungle' has become home.
Oli Dugmore is joined by Miles Ellingham and Jack Jeffrey who reported this week's cover story The truth about the small-boats crisis from northern France.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm always up before the birds and the kids. |
| 0:02.9 | Good thing Costa Express is always up too. |
| 0:07.0 | Early starts are easier with great coffee. |
| 0:09.7 | And if I grab one for Bob, I might even get some decent company. |
| 0:14.5 | Large cappuccino for the bloc who's half asleep. |
| 0:17.2 | Oh, you legend. |
| 0:19.6 | Now that's a proper coffee. |
| 0:21.3 | Should kick in Justin Samfut to remember which end of the screwdriver to use. |
| 0:25.1 | Hmm. |
| 0:26.3 | Costa Express. |
| 0:27.8 | Quality coffee every time. |
| 0:32.8 | The New Statesman. |
| 0:38.3 | Hi, I'm Olly Dougmore, and this is The New Statesman podcast. |
| 0:41.3 | I'm joined today by Miles Ellingham and Jack Jeffrey, who reported the disturbing cover story |
| 0:45.6 | on The New Statesman this week, The Truth About Small Boats. |
| 0:48.3 | Miles, Jack, hello, thanks for joining us. |
| 0:50.1 | Thanks for having us. |
| 0:51.4 | It's a pleasure. |
| 0:51.9 | Jack, we were just chatting before we started recording about previous work you've done. |
| 0:57.6 | You're at AP for a long time. |
| 0:58.8 | You've reported in all sorts of places. |
| 1:02.3 | And the contrast between those places and the sort of new jungle, you know, this new place in northern France where refugees are gathering and trying to cross the English Channel. Let's start there. Why don't you tell me a little bit about where you were in northern |
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