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🗓️ 30 October 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Following the difficult conversation with Brittany Qualls, Jana welcomes in her real life therapist Amy Alexander to share a professional perspective on the traumatic realities of abusive relationships.
Amy takes us through the signs that someone is being abused, and offers some helpful resources for anyone who might be experiencing it themselves.
Plus, Jana shares her own personal breakthrough in therapy and explains the path that took her there.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:04.1 | She said, Johnny. |
| 0:05.6 | The kids didn't come home last night. |
| 0:07.7 | Along the central Texas plains, teens are dying. |
| 0:12.2 | Suicides that don't make sense. |
| 0:14.7 | Strange accidents and brutal murders. |
| 0:18.4 | In what seems to be, a plot ripped straight out of Breaking Bad. |
| 0:23.7 | Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people. |
| 0:27.0 | There are people out there that absolutely know what happened. |
| 0:29.8 | Listen to paper ghosts, the Texas teen murders, |
| 0:33.3 | launching November 5th on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:43.2 | Wind Down with Jana Kramer, an IHeartRadio podcast. |
| 0:49.5 | Okay, this week's special guests, we've got Amy Alexander on. |
| 0:53.7 | The Refuge Center for Counseling began in 2005 and provides 41,000 counseling sessions for over 4,000 clients annually. |
| 1:00.7 | Is that correct? |
| 1:01.3 | Yes. |
| 1:01.6 | Okay, great. |
| 1:03.0 | Amy Alexander is not only mine and Kristen's therapist, but she is, I mean, you started Refuge. |
| 1:13.0 | Co-founder. |
| 1:13.4 | So, and we want to talk about EMDR-D-V, so thank you, Amy, for coming in and sitting |
| 1:19.9 | down on our couch today. |
| 1:21.4 | You're welcome. |
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