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The Lawfare Podcast

On the Brink with the Insurrection Act

The Lawfare Podcast

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International Law, Law, Government, Foreign Policy, News, Politics, Rule Of Law, International Relations, Current Events, Military, Constitutional Law, Intelligence, National Security, History, Terrorism, Diplomacy

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2020

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The president is threatening to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization. This evening, he appears to have ordered a tear gas attack on peaceful protesters near the White House in order to stage a photo op in front of a local church. And he has called out troops in Washington, DC, and threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act. To talk through the legal ins and outs of what the president has done (and not done), what he has the power to do and what he does not have the power to do, and what the federal response to the protests should be, Bobby Chesney, Steve Vladeck and Benjamin Wittes got together for this special joint episode of the National Security Law Podcast and the Lawfare Podcast.

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0:30.7

Hello from both the nation's capital and the capital of Texas and welcome to a special

0:34.6

joint episode of the National Security Law podcast in the LawFair podcast.

0:39.6

It's Monday night, June 1st, 2020.

0:42.6

All hell's breaking loose.

0:45.2

The president is threatening to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization.

0:52.8

This evening appears to have ordered a tear gas attack on peaceful protesters near the

1:00.0

White House in order to stage a photo op in front of a local church and he has called

1:09.3

out troops in Washington, D.C. and threatened to, though not quite, invoked the Insurrection

1:17.1

Act.

1:18.1

So we've got a lot to talk about.

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I'm Benjamin Wittis.

1:22.1

I'm Bobby Chesney.

1:23.1

I'm Steve Vlodic and that sound you hear is my face banging into my table over and over

1:28.9

and over again.

1:31.0

As are all faces connecting with all tables around the country this evening.

1:36.9

So Steve, let's start with what the president said this evening and work backwards from

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there.

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