ON SCHOOL… With Jamie Dornan and Bernie Sanders

How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

Sony Music

Society & Culture

4.8 • 9.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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I’m diving into the back catalogue, bringing you moments of insight, laughter and truth from past guests. These themed episodes are a chance to reflect on the universal experiences that connect us all. This week we’re looking at school and those formative years that shape who we become. You’ll hear from actor Jamie Dornan, originally released in November 2020. Jamie and I went to the same school(!) and discuss what those years taught us. Then we hear from Senator Bernie Sanders, from his original episode in March 2023. Bernie opens up about being rejected from his high school basketball team and how that early setback taught him resilience. I hope this episode reminds you that school isn’t just about exams or rules, it’s about the people, the lessons, and sometimes the failures that stay with us long after the bell rings. Listen to Jamie Dornan’s full episode of How to Fail here: https://play.megaphone.fm/6_7a8c2otds3j72e9md4ea Listen to Bernie Sanders’ full episode of How to Fail here: https://play.megaphone.fm/bwz0irc7qmiwmmsczajzew 🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS: Elizabeth’s Substack: https://theelizabethday.substack.com/ Join the How To Fail community: https://howtofail.supportingcast.fm/#content 💌 LOVE THIS EPISODE? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts Leave a 5⭐ review – it helps more people discover these stories 👋 Follow How To Fail & Elizabeth: Instagram: @howtofailpod @elizabday TikTok: @howtofailpod @elizabday Website: www.elizabethday.org Have a failure you’re trying to work through for Elizabeth to discuss? Click here to get in touch: howtofailpod.com How to Fail is an Elizabeth Day and Sony Music Entertainment Production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Life's been full on lately in the best possible way. I've just wrapped up a world-win national
0:05.2	tour for my latest book. And while it's been an incredible experience, it's also been kind of
0:10.2	exhausting. And honestly, I know I'm not alone and feeling like there just aren't enough
0:14.8	hours in the day. Between work, family, friends and the general chaos of being an adult,
0:20.4	even finding time to eat
0:21.8	properly can feel like a luxury. That's where Uber Eats steps in, because let's be real,
0:28.8	adulting is a lot. Uber Eats gives me one fewer thing to worry about. It's fast, easy, and means
0:35.6	you can actually enjoy a moment of calm, even if it's just
0:38.9	flopping on the sofa in peace. So next time you're feeling like you've done just enough,
0:44.0	let Uber Eats take care of the rest. When you've done enough, order some food on Uber Eats.
0:50.3	How to Fail is partnering with Bumble to bring your second chance love stories to life
0:55.6	and hear how this lovely listener found her one after they hit it off on Bumble.
1:00.8	Hi everyone, I'm so happy to celebrate an online dating on How to Fail because I met the love of
1:05.4	my life online. I'm so grateful for that app connecting us because we would have never met in
1:10.2	real life. I was so nervous for that first date. I can remember turning up at a bar and looking for this guy I'd never met. But as soon as I sat down, I don't know, I just knew who was the one. He actually looked even better in real life than his profile, which was a nice surprise. We live together now with our two cats and I'm forever grateful for having this kind,
1:28.3	lovely man in my life. Love that. Do you have a love story to share? We want to hear from you.
1:35.0	Send a brief voice note to How to Fail at sonymusic.com and tell us about the moments that made your
1:40.9	journey unforgettable. We want to share it on How to Fail.
1:55.0	Welcome to How to Fail with me, Elizabeth Day. Today I'm reaching back into the archive to share a curated collection
2:02.0	of some of my favorite conversations, conversations that remind us we're never as alone as we might think.
2:09.0	First up, it's actor Jamie Dornan, who opens up about how failing at school helped shape the person he is today.
2:16.9	And fun fact, we actually went to the same
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