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The LRB Podcast

On Politics: The Bust-up at the BBC

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4 • 579 Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

The BBC is in crisis, again. A leaked dossier alleging a lack of impartiality in its reporting on Trump, Israel, race and gender has felled its director general and drawn threats of a defamation lawsuit from the White House. Yet many at the corporation point to the dossier’s culture war slant as evidence of a right-wing plot against the BBC. Defensive and stolid, Britain’s main news and media organisation now flinches from any real conflict. Is the BBC capable of surviving in the digital era? Joining James is the former BBC journalist Lewis Goodall, now a prominent face of digital political journalism as part of the News Agents, and Dan Hind, publisher and author of The Return of the Public: Democracy, Power and the Case for Media Reform. Read more on politics in the LRB: ⁠https://lrb.me/lrbpolitics⁠ More from the LRB Subscribe to the LRB: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/subslrbpod Close Readings podcast: ⁠https://lrb.me/crlrbpod⁠ LRB Audiobooks: ⁠https://lrb.me/audiobookslrbpod⁠ Bags, binders and more at the LRB Store: ⁠https://lrb.me/storelrbpod⁠ Get in touch: podcasts@lrb.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm James Wood, and this year on the LRB's Close Reading's podcast, I'm asking,

0:07.4

Who's Afraid of Realism? I'll be taking a range of great novels and short stories,

0:12.4

from Flobe's Madame Bovary and Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground, up to more recent works

0:17.2

by Amit Chowdhury and Gwendolyn Riley. And I'll be examining what makes and makes

0:22.5

for the real. How does realism produce its effects? What's the difference between artifice

0:28.3

and artificiality? And who is and has been afraid of realism and why? The series starts with

0:35.5

two episodes on Madame Bovary, which you can listen to right now.

0:39.2

And in the third episode, I'll be talking to Adam Thurlwell about Dostoevsky.

0:43.1

You can find a link in the description or search close readings wherever you get your podcasts.

0:50.6

The Nation Divided always has the BBC on the rack, So said, one of its chairs back in the early

0:56.6

1970s on the issue of Northern Ireland, an issue which would rankle successive governments

1:01.8

and eventually precipitate a full-scale assault by the Thatcher government on the corporation.

1:07.3

It is a pithy saying, doubtless true in some ways, while also being an exemplary bit of BBC speak.

1:13.8

The corporation's problems are not really its own, but translated expressions of broader national

1:19.4

issues projected onto it.

1:21.7

Well, the nation is certainly divided and the BBC is certainly on the rack again.

1:25.8

This time, the central issue is apparently an

1:28.6

objectively minor editing error in an addition of panorama, which elided two portions of Donald

1:34.1

Trump's long speech prior to the January 6th riot, which has the American president now breathing

1:39.5

fire and threatening lawsuits, and now, in fact, the BBC censoring its wreath lecturer from his criticisms

1:45.6

over Trump's corruptions. But that detail emerged in a report into BBC impartiality,

1:51.5

which focused on a number of hot-button culture war topics, which has already prompted the departure

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